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Rune Classic with v1.2 Coop Mod difficulty fixes
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I posted these on Steam's Rune Classic forum and was informed about these forums here so I am reposting for anyone interested.
After playing Rune Classic with Co-op Mod v1.2 with friends we felt it was way too time-consuming, difficult and on par perhaps with a "Nightmare" skill mode. Enemies took 20-30 hits each on Classic mode (not even Hardcore mode), and it took forever to clear rooms of enemies because of this. We edited the mod's script files and created 3 different difficulty "fixes" to re-balance the player's health and the amount of damage needed to kill enemies.
In single player on Hard mode it takes about 5-6 hits to kill a lesser skeleton for example, so we matched our hard mode based on this. Medium mode would take about 3-4 hits, and if you choose the easy patch then expect to be killing enemies with just 1 or 2 hits.
Also on hard mode the player takes about 15% less damage from the coop mod's default (we felt it was just a bit too hard with the defaults, it lead to spam spawning). In medium mode you receive about 33% less damage, and in easy mode 60% less. I would recommend playing the Hard mode as its a proper feeling "hard" gameplay mode now. Choose Medium mode for a quicker and perhaps more fun play through the game with 2 players. We did not test with 3 or 4 players, so if the enemies health scales up and you want to get through them faster, use Medium or Easy patch to balance it out.
Here are the fixes, just replace your coop.int and coop.u under the Rune\System\ folder:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/74196244/Coop_Mod_Difficulty_Fix_Easy_Mode.rar
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/74196244/Coop_Mod_Difficulty_Fix_Medium_Mode.rar
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/74196244/Coop_Mod_Difficulty_Fix_Hard_Mode.rar
I would definitely recommend the Hard mode, as now it feels like a proper hard mode compared to other games and offers the most fun.
P.S.
If coop mod makers are seeing this, we discovered an error with the Coop Mod + Rune Classic in the level Hel3b (the one right before HelElev), this happens with the original Coop Mod 1.2 as well as for ours. When entering a green-slime filled hallway with some wooden doors, if you break one of these doors the game freezes for the host (Application Not Responding), and for other players connected they get a Disconnected message after a while. We tried it with various players hosting, always crashes for the host's PC. The problem is you can avoid some of the wooden doors, but then you must cross a certain area where some enemies bust out from behind those doors and the game crashes.
The cheats are disabled in Coop Mod, "CheatPlease" and "ghost" commands dont work so clipping past it is not an option. The only option is to load the next map HelElev. It is interesting to note that in single player when you finish the level previous to Hel3b, it leads directly to the start of HelElev. So in Coop Mod they added this new level themselves and now its not fully compatible with Rune Classic (v1.10). The good news is you can skip the level as theres no boss or anything significant in there as far as we can tell and just continue as you would in the single player map cycle to HelElev.
By the way Im *really* hoping this is the only place where the Coop Mod has errors with Rune Classic but this is as far as we've played. Are some of the mod makers still active on here for possible fixes?
Submitted by Sirius104 on Sun, 07/22/2012 - 02:02
great report!
great report!
How long do you play rune? i just ask because of the easy,medium,hard files you create!
1)most enemies dont needs to be killed to finish the maps... coop1.2 is a free ride through the game, all the maps gets changes because of cinema, climbing or other stuff from the sp that doesnt work for coop mod and two(2) veteran rune gamer beat this mod without any problems like enemies, make damage, take damage ect...
all i want to say is that you'r maybe a beginner and think the coop is hard but honestly its very easy if you know which nps has to die, which trigger to pull, which pump to push ect. it gets really lame...
2)all the stuff i read about Coop1.2 is that its too hard for the most players... also if they play with 4 or more player, it can be very annoying to fight agains ~10 hard npc...
3)Hel3b dont know what to say... i think that not even one map of my coop will work for 1.1... atuors never thought about a 1.1.... but this freezing glitch sounds very bad and can be a big problem for new player.
ok, you may can skip the level if you know the name of the level after , but what do ppl that never play sp or coop? they can just guess which Hel map is the correct next one... sound like Darq and his team needs to do some fixes...(smile)
4)nope just god mode is disabled in coop!
i hope you and your friend can continue on the coop without any other strange glitches/bugs/crashes...!
Can you tell me how to
Can you tell me how to activate the cheats?
I am playing the game in Rune CLassic v1.10 (bought on Steam), and i bring up console (~ key) and then type "CheatPlease"... nothing happens in Coop mod.
In single player I do it and says "Cheats enabled" but not in Coop mod.
So then how do I activate cheats in Coop version?
I played Rune back in 2001 when it came out and finished it... now I have bought Rune Classic on steam and re-playing it in coop with friends. I think you are right, if a player is a hardcore Rune player then coop mod might be a good difficulty for them.... however most people who will play the Coop mod now are new players (re-players) on Steam who just bought the new Rune Classic. And it feels too difficult for a new(ish) player so thats why I made this difficulty fix to have a more fun & enjoyable time.
About Hel3B & HelElev, if they get stuck hopefully they find this forum and this post, or the one I made on Steam forums under Rune Classic and can find the map name to load there. But yes fix would be better
Go to Advance Options> Game
Hi Sirius.....
Go to Options> Game>Advance Options> and type in a password. Close it up, go back to game and hit "Tab". Type in: adminlogin then your password You will see a message saying you have become server admin.
Hit Tab again and type: cheatplease (message will show "cheats enabled") and so on.
Go to the "Lar's: All Your Server Needs" sticky in "Server Administration" to click on the first link (Testi's "How to run a Rune Server") which give you all of the commands. This is one of the "Wayback Machine" RuneGame.com thread captures...so in a few seconds it will take you to Testi's thread.
open coop -> open console ->
open coop -> use "Tab" write "set gameinfo adminpassword test" push enter ->
use "Tab" again and write "set input n adminlogin test", enter -> "Tab" again! write
"set input m cheatplease" enter! now push n and m ! you can create more hotkeys if you want! for example with "god" "ghost" "walk"... regards Ona
Ah thanks guys, now I will
Ah thanks guys, now I will see whats beyond that freezing point in the map.